[2021] FWCFB 4990
FAIR WORK COMMISSION

DECISION

Fair Work Act 2009
s.604—Appeal of decision

Rodney Harvey
v
Valentine Hydrotherapy Pools Inc
(C2021/3716)

VICE PRESIDENT CATANZARITI
COMMISSIONER MCKINNON
COMMISSIONER P RYAN

SYDNEY, 12 AUGUST 2021

Appeal against decision [2021] FWC 3373 of Deputy President Saunders at Newcastle on 10 June 2021 in matter number U2021/2065 - application for an unfair dismissal remedy – compensation amount – permission to appeal refused.

Introduction

[1] By notice of appeal dated 30 June 2021, Rodney Harvey seeks permission to appeal and appeals a decision and order made on 10 June 2021 by Deputy President Saunders. 1 The Deputy President found that Mr Harvey had been unfairly dismissed. The Deputy President ordered Valentine Hydrotherapy Pools Inc. (VHP) to pay Mr Harvey an amount of compensation under section 392(1) of the Fair Work Act 2009 (Cth) (Act) as an unfair dismissal remedy.2 The application for permission to appeal was heard by telephone on 3 August 2021.

The decision

[2] The relevant findings of the Deputy President are at paragraphs [65] to [70] of the decision:

“[65] Like all calculations of damages or compensation, there is an element of speculation in determining an employee’s anticipated period of employment because the task involves an assessment of what would have been likely to happen in the future had the employee not been dismissed.

[66] I am satisfied on the balance of probabilities that if Mr Harvey had not been dismissed on 19 February 2021, he would have remained employed by VHP for a further four weeks. I make this finding notwithstanding that Mr Harvey contends that he would have remained in employment with VHP for as long as the pools stayed financially viable. The evidence points to a different conclusion. In particular, it is plain from his evidence that Mr Harvey not only had ongoing disputes with a number of the new members of the management committee from September 2020 onwards, he also had, and continues to have, a very negative opinion towards the part-time pool attendant employed by VHP, Mr Honess. At the time of Mr Harvey’s dismissal, Mr Honess remained employed by VHP. It appears as though Mr Honess has since ceased employment with VHP, although I do not know when that occurred or why it occurred. In any event, the clear picture one gets from assessing the evidence as a whole is that the relationship between Mr Harvey and VHP was deteriorating from 20 September 2020 onwards. Mr Harvey was angry and frustrated at the way he was being spoken to, payment for the hours he was working, the lack of recognition for his efforts, and what he perceived to be issues of non-compliance with the Award. VHP was concerned about what it perceived to be intimidating behaviour on Mr Harvey’s part and time spent by him on his mobile phone while at work. These tensions resulted in Mr Harvey stating, on two occasions within three days, that he intended to hand in his notice of resignation. He did not do so, but he was clearly very close to bringing the employment relationship to an end. I do not have any confidence that the significant problems in the employment relationship between Mr Harvey and VHP would have been resolved had Mr Harvey remained in employment after 19 February 2021. In all the circumstances, I find, on the balance of probabilities, that Mr Harvey’s casual employment with VHP would have come to an end, either by way of resignation or dismissal, in four weeks from 19 February 2021.

[67] I am satisfied on the balance of probabilities that if Mr Harvey had not been dismissed on 19 February 2021 he would have continued to work 24 paid hours per week for VHP in each of the four weeks after his dismissal. The management committee approved an increase in Mr Harvey’s hours of up to 24 per week in January 2021. In light of the amount of pool attendant work to be done at VHP and the hours Mr Harvey had been working up to 19 February 2021, I am satisfied that Mr Harvey would have taken up the full available quota of 24 hours paid work each week. This finding is supported by Ms Turton’s evidence to the effect that if Mr Harvey had not been dismissed, she expects that he would have continued to work up to 24 hours per week for the foreseeable future.

[68] There is a dispute as to the hourly rate at which Mr Harvey would have been paid if he had continued to work for four weeks after 19 February 2021. Mr Harvey contends that he would have been paid at the rate he was always paid at - $28.38 per hour for weekdays and $29.51 on a weekend. That equates to $694.64 per week (20 hours x $28.38 + 4 hours x $29.51 = $576.60 + $118.04 = $694.64). VHP contends that it paid Mr Harvey at the incorrect rate under the Award because it misclassified him under the Award. It contends that his hourly rate should have been $25.06.

[69] The question I need to consider under s 392(2)(c) of the Act is “the remuneration that the person would have received, or would have been likely to receive, if the person had not been dismissed”. The dispute concerning the correct classification and pay rate for Mr Harvey only arose as a result of Mr Harvey’s contention, raised for the first time in about mid-February 2021, that VHP was not complying with the Award. The parties have still not agreed on the correct classification question and that issue is likely to only be resolved to finality if Mr Harvey commences legal proceedings for an alleged underpayment of wages. Having regard to those matters, I find that the rate of remuneration Mr Harvey would have received, or would have been likely to receive, from VHP if he had not been dismissed on 19 February 2021 and instead remained employed for a further period of four weeks is the rate of pay he had been receiving at all material times up to 19 February 2021. That is, $28.38 per hour for weekdays and $29.51 on a weekend, which equates to $694.64 per week for a 24 hour week with 20 hours on weekdays and four hours on weekends. I hasten to add that my finding in this regard is on a question of fact and says nothing about the correct classification for Mr Harvey under the Award. I do not need to resolve, and have not resolved, that question in these proceedings.

[70] Accordingly, I am satisfied that $2,778.56 (4 x $694.64 = $2,778.56) is the remuneration that Mr Harvey would have received, or would have been likely to receive, if he had not been dismissed.”

[3] After deducting an amount of $0.35 for other income earned in the period since dismissal and making no other adjustments to the compensation amount, the Deputy President found at paragraph [88] of the decision that $2778.21 was the appropriate remedy for Mr Harvey in the circumstances.

Permission to appeal

[4] The Decision subject to appeal was made under Part 3-2- Unfair Dismissal – of the Act. Section 400(1) of the Act provides that permission to appeal must not be granted from a decision made under Part 3-2 unless the Commission considers that it is in the public interest to do so. Further, in unfair dismissal matters, appeals on a question of fact can only be made on the ground that the decision involved a ‘significant error of fact’ (s 400(2)). Section 400 of the Act manifests an intention that the threshold for a grant of permission to appeal is higher in respect of unfair dismissal appeals than the threshold pertaining to appeals generally.

[5] The public interest test in s 400(1) is not satisfied simply by the identification of error or a preference for a different result. In GlaxoSmithKline Australia Pty Ltd v Making a Full Bench of the Commission identified some of the considerations that may attract the public interest:

“… the public interest might be attracted where a matter raises issues of importance and general application, or where there is a diversity of decisions at first instance so that guidance from an appellate court is required, or where the decision at first instance manifests an injustice, or they result in counter intuitive, or that the legal principles applied appear disharmonious when compared with other recent decisions dealing with similar matters…” 3

[6] Other than granting permission to appeal on a public interest basis, the grounds for granting permission to appeal are not specified. Considerations which have traditionally been treated as justifying the grant of permission to appeal include that the decision is attended with sufficient doubt to warrant its reconsideration and that substantial injustice may result if refused. 4

[7] It will rarely be appropriate to grant permission to appeal unless an arguable case of appealable error is demonstrated. This is so because an appeal cannot succeed in the absence of appealable error. 5 However, the fact that the member at first instance made an error is not necessarily a sufficient basis for the grant of permission to appeal.6

[8] An application for permission to appeal is not a de facto or preliminary hearing of the appeal. In determining whether permission to appeal should be granted, it is unnecessary and inappropriate for the Full Bench to conduct a detailed examination of the grounds of appeal. 7 However, it is necessary to engage with the appeal grounds to consider whether they raise an arguable case of appealable error.

Appeal grounds and submissions

[9] Mr Harvey’s notice of appeal and appeal submissions disclose six appeal grounds. These are (in summary):

Ground 1 - The Deputy President made a significant error of fact when he found at paragraph [66] of the decision that if Mr Harvey had not been dismissed on 19 February 2021, he would have remained employed by VHP for a further four weeks, when the evidence from both Mr Harvey and VHP was that he would have remained in employment for the foreseeable future.

Ground 2 - Witnesses of VHP made contradictory statements about Mr Harvey’s hours of work and these should be considered perjury.

Ground 3 - The standard of representation on behalf of VHP was inadequate and this disadvantaged VHP.

Ground 4 - The representative of VHP violated the confidentiality of conciliation in his submissions.

Ground 5 - The Deputy President breached the Commission’s Member Code of Conduct, Guiding Principles.

Ground 6 - The Deputy President did not fully exercise or explain Mr Harvey’s rights as a self-represented applicant or assist him in a way that is recommended in the Member Code of Conduct.

Consideration

Ground 1 of the appeal

[10] Ground 1 deals with section 392(c) of the Act, which requires the Commission to consider the remuneration that a person would have received, or would have been likely to receive if the person had not been dismissed when determining a compensation amount. By this ground, Mr Harvey asserts that the Deputy President was obliged to accept the evidence of the parties in relation to Mr Harvey’s anticipated period of employment because both Mr Harvey and Ms Nicole Turton, Administration Manager for VHP, gave evidence that he would have remained employed for the foreseeable future. We accept that evidence to this effect was given by Mr Harvey (at PN352-353 of the transcript) and Ms Turton (at PN581).

[11] The question of remuneration that Mr Harvey would have received, or would have been likely to receive, is not a question of fact. It is a question directed to the hypothetical scenario of a likely period of employment that would have ensued had the dismissal not occurred. When making this assessment, the Commission is required to turn its mind to the whole of the evidence and make an evaluative judgment about relevant matters, including the state of the relationship between the parties and other surrounding circumstances.

[12] The Deputy President approached the matter in precisely those terms. He took into account the evidence that Mr Harvey would likely remain in employment for the foreseeable future but found that the evidence pointed to a different conclusion. In that respect, he was not only required to consider the evidence of Mr Harvey and Ms Turton, but the totality of the evidence, including that of the other witnesses for VHP and Mr Harvey’s own evidence about the state of his relationship with VHP, some of its officers and employees.

[13] We are not persuaded that the decision discloses any arguable case of appealable error in the assessment of this criterion by the Deputy President. We reject the submission that the Deputy President’s finding in this regard amounted to a significant error of fact. It was not a factual finding.

Ground 2 of the appeal

[14] Ground 2 of the appeal does not disclose any arguable case of appealable error. It is commonly the case in Commission proceedings that parties make statements that on their face appear contradictory. This does not mean that the parties are necessarily being dishonest. It is the task of the Commission to make findings to resolve contested facts in the evidence. Sometimes this involves making findings as to the credibility of witnesses and sometimes it does not. It is not self-evident on the materials before us that any witness committed perjury and Mr Harvey’s submissions do not provide any proper basis for reaching a conclusion of that kind. The Deputy President set out the relevant background and found it necessary to resolve one part of the contest over hours Mr Harvey was authorised to work by January 2021 (at paragraph [67] of the decision) because it was relevant to the question of remedy. Whether, and which, hours of attendance at work by Mr Harvey were authorised or worked on a voluntary basis were not otherwise issues that were necessary for the Deputy President to resolve for the purpose of determining whether a dismissal occurred, and if so, whether it was unfair. The issues may be relevant to an alleged underpayment of wages, but as the Deputy President made clear to Mr Harvey during the hearing, it was not relevant to the question of dismissal.

[15] An allegation of perjury is a serious one that should not be made without a proper basis and only in circumstances where it can be fully put to the relevant witness, and the witness be given an opportunity to reply. 8 The allegation does not point to any arguable case of error of fact or law in the Deputy President’s decision.

Ground 3 of the appeal

[16] This ground can be disposed of quickly. The standard of representation of a party in the Commission is not a reason for appellate review. We reject this ground of appeal.

Ground 4 of the appeal

[17] Ground 4 deals with statements made openly by the representative of VHP about what happened in conciliation with Mr Harvey. The precise statements about which Mr Harvey complains are not identified. It is of course inappropriate that the confidential discussions in a conciliation context would be disclosed outside that forum, but as with ground 3 of the appeal, it is not, without more, a reason for appellate review of a decision of the Commission. It might be that an arguable case of error could arise if, for example, a disclosure of this kind could be shown to have influenced the outcome in some way, but there is nothing that we can see that would point to that being the case here. The submissions of Mr Harvey are at best brief. We also note that Mr Harvey made his own disclosures about what happened in conciliation during the course of the proceeding (For example, see PN371 of the transcript). Ground 4 does not disclose any arguable case of appealable error.

Grounds 5 and 6 of the appeal

[18] It is convenient to deal with grounds 5 and 6 of the appeal together. Firstly, the need for appellate review is not established by the mere assertion of some breach of the Member Code of Conduct or failure to provide assistance to a self-represented party in a hearing. There is a process for dealing with concerns of this kind, including by making a complaint to the President of the Commission. We are not persuaded that the materials disclose any arguable case of appealable error in this regard. Secondly, the Deputy President was not required to provide advice to Mr Harvey about his rights or to assist him to put forward his best case. It is not clear to us what recommendations the Member Code of Conduct is said by Mr Harvey to make about the conduct of proceedings involving self-represented applicants because again, his submissions on this point are very brief. The Member Code of Conduct provides general guidance about standards of behaviour in Commission proceedings. There is nothing before us to suggest that the Deputy President acted in any way that would not conform to those standards in the conduct of the hearing. We find no arguable case of appealable error in relation to grounds 5 and 6 of the appeal.

Conclusion

[19] For the reasons above, we do not find the Deputy President’s decision to award compensation to Mr Harvey to be attended with sufficient doubt to warrant its reconsideration. The decision does not manifest any injustice and nor does it raise any issues of general application as opposed to turning on its own facts. Many of the matters raised by Mr Harvey are about the conduct of participants in the hearing process rather than any error of law or fact in the decision. We do not consider the grant of permission to be in the public interest, nor do we consider that there is any other basis upon which permission to appeal should be granted.

[20] Permission to appeal is therefore refused.

al of the Fair Work Commission with member's signature,

VICE PRESIDENT

Appearances:

Mr R Harvey on his own behalf

Mr P Amos for the Respondent

Hearing details:

2021.

Telephone hearing.

3 August 2021.

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 1   [2021] FWC 3373 (decision); PR730648 (order).

 2   Decision at [52].

 3   (2010) 197 IR 266 at [27].

 4   Also see CFMEU v AIRC (1998) 89 FCR 200; and Wan v AIRC (2001) 116 FCR 481.

 5   Wan v AIRC (2001) 116 FCR 481 at [30].

 6   GlaxoSmithKline Australia Pty Ltd v Makin [2010] FWAFB 5343 at [26]-[27], 197 IR 266; Lawrence v Coal & Allied Mining Services Pty Ltd t/as Mt Thorley Operations/Warkworth [2010] FWAFB 10089 at [28], 202 IR 388, affirmed on judicial review in Coal & Allied Mining Services Pty Ltd v Lawler (2011) 192 FCR 78; NSW Bar Association v Brett McAuliffe; Commonwealth of Australia represented by the Australian Taxation Office [2014] FWCFB 1663 at [28].

 7   Trustee for The MTGI Trust v Johnston [2016] FCAFC 140 at [82].

 8   Xiu Zhen Huang v Rheem Australia Pty Ltd [2005] AIRC 108, [21]-[22].