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AUSTRALIAN INDUSTRIAL RELATIONS COMMISSION

Workplace Relations Act 1996
s.45 appeal

Chubb Security Australia Pty Ltd

and

John Thomas

(C No. 23124 of 1999)

Appeal by Chubb Security Australia Pty Ltd against decision
(Print R8455) and order (Print R8668) issued by
Deputy President Duncan on 31 August 1999 in U No. 20066 of 1999

VICE PRESIDENT McINTYRE

 

SENIOR DEPUTY PRESIDENT MARSH

 

COMMISSIONER LARKIN

SYDNEY, 2 FEBRUARY 2000

Appeal against decision and order - termination of employment - finding that termination disproportionate to offence - conclusion that termination harsh, unjust and unreasonable - sense in which order made was discretionary - principles applicable to appeal from discretionary order - nature of error within s.170JF(2) - alleged failure to make finding under s.170CG(3)(a) - whether extraneous or irrelevant matters considered - manner in which appeal should be disposed of under s.45(7) - ss.45, 170CA(2), 170CG(3) and 170JF(2)

DECISION

INTRODUCTION AND DUNCAN DP's DECISION AND ORDER

[1] This is an appeal by Chubb Security Australia Pty Ltd (Chubb) expressed to be "against decision and order by Deputy President Duncan at Sydney on 31 August 1999" in matter U No. 20066 of 1999. In this decision (Print R8455), Duncan DP found that Chubb's dismissal of John Thomas, an applicant for relief under s.170CE of the Workplace Relations Act 1996, was "on balance, harsh, unjust and unreasonable". His Honour, noting that Mr Thomas did not seek reinstatement and that Chubb resisted it, said that he did not consider it appropriate to award reinstatement and concluded that he was "satisfied that payment of sixteen weeks pay subject to tax by way of compensation results in a fair go all round, the object of Division 3 of Part VIA of the Act referred to in s.170CA(2)". His Honour issued the following Finding and Order (Print R8668):

[2] In his decision, Duncan DP under the heading "Findings" said (paragraph [23]):

[3] Except as to point 13 (to which we further refer in our paragraphs [20] and [22]), we are, with respect, of the view that these findings are justified on the evidence before his Honour. To complete the picture we, however, add the following - none of which is in dispute:

[4] We also add that, before Duncan DP, Mr Grecian's evidence included that:

[5] In his decision, Duncan DP, after setting out the findings we have quoted, turned to s.170CG(3) which states:

[6] With respect to s.170CG(3)(a):

his Honour said (paragraph [25]):

[7] With respect to s.170CG(3)(b):

his Honour said (paragraph [26]):

[8] With respect to s.170CG(3)(c):

his Honour said (paragraph [27]):

[9] With respect to s.170CG(3)(d):

his Honour said (paragraph [28]):

[10] And with respect to s.170CG(3)(e):

his Honour said (paragraphs [29], [30] and [31]):



[11] His Honour then considered the matter of remedy and, as we have earlier noted, ordered that Chubb pay Mr Thomas 16 weeks pay less tax.

THE APPEAL

[12] Chubb's appeal was filed on 21 September 1999. The notice of appeal included an application for an order staying the operation of the decision and order under appeal. This application was heard by McIntyre VP on 12 October 1999. Pursuant to a decision given that day, McIntyre VP on 13 October 1999 made the following order (Print S0104):

[13] The appeal was heard by us on 8 December 1999. Mr S Benson of counsel appeared, by leave, for Chubb and Mr Thomas appeared in person.

[14] The main contentions in Chubb's appeal were that his Honour erred:

CONSIDERATION OF DUNCAN DP's DECISION

[15] As appears from paragraphs [30] and (31] of Duncan DP's decision (included in paragraph [10] of our decision), his Honour concluded that Mr Thomas's termination was "on balance, harsh, unjust and unreasonable" because of his Honour's earlier conclusion that the termination was "disproportionate to the offence". It is, we think, apparent from these words that his Honour viewed what Mr Thomas did as an "offence" but not one serious enough to warrant termination. His Honour's conclusion that the termination was disproportionate to the offence was reached after he considered the matters which are listed in his paragraph [30]. There are ten matters listed. The first six favour Mr Thomas and the remaining four do not.

[16] We turn to the six considerations listed by Duncan DP which are in Mr Thomas's favour and which led his Honour to the conclusion that termination was disproportionate to the offence.

[17] First consideration: "there was no malice in Mr Thomas' experiment nor any suggestion of industrial sabotage". We accept that this was so. But is this an indication that the termination was disproportionate to the offence? "Malice" means evil intent or a desire to inflict injury. "Industrial sabotage" means malicious injury to work or to an industrial undertaking. An "offence" involving malice or industrial sabotage is obviously one of the gravest nature. Accordingly, in our opinion, the absence of malice or any suggestion of industrial sabotage does not lend support to the view that the termination was disproportionate to the offence.

[18] Second consideration: "there is no evidence from which I can draw an inference that Mr Thomas was acting in a fashion inimical with his duties as a security officer". In our view, Mr Thomas acted in a fashion which was directly inimical to his duties as a security officer. His duties were to carry out his work in accordance with his instructions and not to conduct an unauthorised "experiment" (the word used by his Honour in his first consideration) which had the potential to harm Chubb. (We deal with this aspect further in our paragraph [49].) We are, with respect, of the opinion that there was no basis for this second consideration.

[19] Third consideration: "that in the meetings Mr Grecian twice said words to the effect that he understood what was being attempted but disapproved the execution." As appears from the evidence, Mr Grecian did twice say words to this effect. While Mr Grecian's comments may indicate some support for Mr Thomas's idea of making an "assessment", they specifically disapprove the way in which Mr Thomas did it. And it was the way in which Mr Thomas did it that was the essence of his "offence". Accordingly, we do not think that the third consideration supports the view that termination was disproportionate to the offence.

[20] Fourth consideration: "that Mr Grecian appears to have taken no steps to prevent the practice generally although he was aware of an attempt at a similar incident". In dealing with this fourth consideration, we also refer to his Honour's similar comment in point 13 of his paragraph [23] (which is set out in our paragraph [2]) that "Mr Grecian was aware that these informal `assessments' were being conducted - he was approached by one intending assessor - but did not advise against it generally or prohibit it by instruction to the officers at the site". The evidence contains references to the following incidents:

(1) The Wollongong incident. Mr Grecian said: "There was one incident when I did receive a phone call from a guard in Wollongong who had completed the course and wished to carry out site assessments but I informed that guard that he had no authorisation to do so because the program of placing work place assessors in the company was as a fall-back measure in case there was insufficient time to accredit all the guards through the normal RPL training method and that any activity on this needed to be co-ordinated through the training organisation and they were not doing that" (transcript p.63).

(2) The first Alcock incident. Mr Thomas gave evidence that another guard, Mr Luke Simon, had got his (Mr Simon's) wife to ring Mr Alcock and tell him that "she was from one of our buildings we patrol and that there was a naked man walking around" (exhibit T.1). When Mr Alcock told Mr Simon's wife that he was going to terminate the call and call the police, Mrs Simon identified herself. (This call to Mr Alcock was a hoax.)

(3) The balaclava incident. Mr Thomas, in his evidence referred to an incident where a Mr John Edwards, the person in charge of training at Chubb, walked through Chubb's car park wearing a balaclava to check reactions. Mr Thomas said he "was led to believe that Mr Edwards would advise some office people of which particular time he was going to do it" (transcript p.39). The incident, Mr Thomas said, was stopped when Mr Edwards "was confronted by a patrol officer and his drawn weapon" (exhibit T.1).

(4) The Zanbaka incident. At the 7 December 1998 interview, Mr Grecian asked Mr Thomas if he had "done this before?". Mr Thomas said "Yes. To Fred Zanbaka. I can't understand why he carried out the procedure" (exhibit C.1, attachment A). At the 9 December 1998 interview, Mr Grecian asked Mr Thomas what happened with respect to Mr Zanbaka. Mr Thomas said "It was the same but [Zanbaka] followed the call and found out that it was Maria [Mr Thomas's wife] and continued on to make the call a social one" (exhibit C.1, attachment B). In cross-examination, Mrs Thomas was asked whether there had been a similar incident to the one on 4 December 1998. She said there was one relating to "Fred. I can't pronounce his surname. I believe it starts with Z" (transcript p.52). There is also a brief reference to this incident in Mrs Thomas's re-examination (transcript p.59). This is, presumably, the incident to which Mr Thomas was referring in the interviews with Mr Grecian.

[21] In the context of the fourth consideration and point 13 of Duncan DP's paragraph [23], we refer to the following evidence of Mr Grecian:

[22] In the light of the evidence to which we have referred in the previous two paragraphs, we express the following views with respect to the fourth consideration (set out in our paragraph [20]) and to point 13 in his Honour's paragraph [23] (also set out in our paragraph [20]):

[23] Fifth consideration: "that Mr Thomas had a generally good record notwithstanding Mr Grecian's criticism of certain aspects of Mr Thomas' approach to work routines." We accept that Mr Thomas had a generally good record and that this was a factor that supported his Honour's view that Mr Thomas's termination was disproportionate to the offence.

[24] Sixth consideration: "that I do not hold Mr Thomas directly responsible for the loss of the tender." We make the following comments in relation to this consideration:

[25] We next turn to the four considerations in paragraph [30] of Duncan DP's decision which were not in Mr Thomas's favour:

It is sufficient to say that, in our respectful view, each of these considerations is substantiated by the evidence.

CONCLUSIONS

[26] Section 170JF(2) is applicable to this appeal. It states:

Therefore, the issue before us is whether his Honour "was in error in deciding to make the order".

[27] Section 45(1) makes provision for an appeal to a Full Bench with the leave of the Full Bench, against, among other things, "an ... order made by a member of the Commission ..." (s.45(1)(b)). Section 45(2) states:

[28] The order the subject of Chubb's appeal was made pursuant to Duncan DP's finding that Mr Thomas's dismissal was "harsh, unjust and unreasonable". The order is, accordingly, a discretionary one because it depends on the application of a very general standard - that is "harsh, unjust or unreasonable" (s.170CE(1)(a)) - which calls for an overall assessment having regard to the factors mentioned in s.170CG(3), each of which in turn calls for an assessment of circumstances. (The last sentence is an adaptation of a passage in the joint judgment of Mason and Deane JJ in Norbis v Norbis (1986) 161 CLR 513 at 518 which was quoted in Construction, Forestry, Mining and Energy Union v Giudice (1998) 159 ALR 1 at pp.28-9.)

[29] Because the order of Duncan DP is a discretionary one, the appeal is to be determined in accordance with the principles applicable to appeals from such an order; that is, the principles stated in House v The King (1936) 55 CLR 499 at 504-5 (see Construction, Forestry, Mining and Energy Union v Giudice at pp.28-9).

[30] In House v The King, Dixon, Evatt and McTiernan JJ stated these principles as follows (pp.504-5):

[31] In Norbis v Norbis, Mason and Deane JJ, having categorised the order in that case as discretionary because it depended on the application of a very general standard, said (pp.518-9):

[32] In Construction, Forestry, Mining and Energy Union v Giudice, the Full Court of the Federal Court said (p.20):

[33] In the recent case of Edwards v Giudice (23 December 1999) FCA 1836 (decided after we reserved our decision) Moore J said (para.3):

[34] In the light of the principles applicable to an appeal from a discretionary order, we consider whether an error within these principles was made by Duncan DP in exercising the discretion.

[35] The first matter we consider is Chubb's contention that his Honour erred in not making a finding with respect to the relevant matter specified in s.170CG(3)(a); that is, whether there was a valid reason for Mr Thomas's termination related to his conduct. Section 170CG(3) required his Honour to have regard to the matters set out in paragraphs (a) to (e) of it. We have set out in our paragraphs [6] to [10] what his Honour said with respect to each of these matters. As appears from this, his Honour did not make a finding as to whether there was a valid reason for Mr Thomas's termination related to his conduct.

[36] Section 170CG(3) says that, in determining whether a termination was harsh, unjust or unreasonable, "the Commission must have regard to" the matters specified in paragraphs (a) to (e).

[37] The words "have regard to" were considered by the High Court in Re Hunt; Ex parte Sean Investments Pty Ltd (1979) 53 ALJR 552. Mason J, with whom Gibbs J agreed, said (of a section of an Act which said that the Permanent Head shall have regard to certain costs) that when the section "directs the Permanent Head to 'have regard to' the costs, it directs him to take those costs into account and to give weight to them as a fundamental element in making his determination" (p.554). Murphy J said that the section "tends in itself to show that his [the Permanent Head's] duty in respect of those costs is limited to having regard to them. He must take them into account and consider them and give due weight to them, but he has an ultimate discretion" (p.556).

[38] Each of paragraphs (a) to (d) of s.170CG(3) requires the Commission to have regard to "whether" a circumstance existed. Whether it existed must then (Re Hunt; Ex parte Sean Investments Pty Ltd) be taken into account, considered and given due weight as a fundamental element in determining whether the termination is harsh, unjust or unreasonable.

[39] In this situation, and subject to the qualifications we express in the next paragraph, the Commission, in our view, is not able to have regard to the circumstances specified in ss.170CG(3)(a) to (d) without making a finding with respect to each of them.

[40] We qualify what we have said in the previous paragraph in two respects:

[41] Further, it is not, we think, possible to have regard to s.170CG(3)(b) until a finding has been made with regard to s.170CG(3)(a). Section 170CG(3)(b) refers to "that reason"; that is "a valid reason", being the term used in s.170CG(3)(a). If there is no valid reason, s.170CG(3)(b) has no application. Neither, we think, has s.170CG(3)(c).

[42] We are therefore of the opinion that his Honour's failure to make a finding with respect to the relevant matter specified in s.170CG(3)(a) amounted to a failure, contrary to s.170CG(3), to take that matter into account and, accordingly, an error of the type referred to in s.170JF(2). This view is, we think, supported by Moore J's remarks, quoted in our paragraph [33], in Edwards v Giudice that a failure to comply with s.170CG(3)(a) amounts to an error of this type.

[43] We next consider whether his Honour erred in allowing extraneous or irrelevant matters to guide or affect him; see House v The King at p.505. Earlier in this decision (our paragraphs [17] to [24]), we dealt with each of the six considerations in Mr Thomas's favour which led Duncan DP to conclude that Mr Thomas's termination was disproportionate to the offence. We concluded that, for various reasons, five of these six considerations did not support this conclusion. We are therefore, with respect, of the view that his Honour erred in allowing these five considerations to guide or affect him and that this is also an error of the type referred to in s.170JF(2).

[44] We add, having regard to the words used in the passage quoted in our paragraph [32] from Construction, Forestry, Mining and Energy Union v Giudice, that in our opinion the decision under appeal is attended with sufficient doubt as to warrant it being reconsidered by us and that substantial injustice would result if leave to appeal were refused.

[45] In the light of the views expressed in the preceding three paragraphs, we are of the opinion that the matter is of such importance that, in the public interest, leave to appeal should be granted (s.45(2)).

[46] How then should we dispose of the appeal? Section 45(7), so far as is relevant, provides:

[47] We have concluded (see our paragraphs [42 and [43]) that Duncan DP was in error in deciding to make the order he made (s.170JF(2)). Therefore, pursuant to s.45(7)(a), we will quash the order.

[48] Next, we have decided that we should, pursuant to s.45(7)(b), make an order dealing with the subject matter of the decision or act of Duncan DP. We record that we have considered whether we should act under s.45(7)(c). We have, however, come to the view that this is an appeal which is more appropriately dealt with under s.45(7)(b) than under s.45(7)(c). We have, in the course of deciding this appeal, considered all the evidence before Duncan DP. There is no dispute that Mr Thomas asked his wife to make the call to Mr Alcock and that she did so. There is no dispute that Mr Thomas had no authority to do what he did. (We add that we have noted Duncan DP's comment in his paragraph [23] included in our paragraph [2]) that "Where choices have to be made between the evidence of Mr and Mrs Thomas and Mr Alcock I prefer the Thomas' evidence". The main conflict between Mrs Thomas's evidence and Mr Alcock's evidence related to the manner in which Mrs Thomas's telephone call to Mr Alcock was terminated. We regard this as immaterial. In any event, we do not need to go further than to rely on the evidence of Mr and Mrs Thomas that Mr Thomas asked Mrs Thomas to make the call and that Mrs Thomas did so.)

[49] We then turn to s.170CG(3). As to s.170CG(3)(a), there was, in our view, a valid reason for Mr Thomas's termination related to his conduct. It must, or should, as a matter of common sense, have been obvious to Mr Thomas that his actions could harm Chubb in various ways, including that:

In cross-examination, Mr Thomas disagreed with the proposition that his actions may have placed Chubb's name in disrepute and caused Chubb to lose credibility with Morgan Grenfell. Mr Thomas, however, said that his view that these consequences would not have occurred was based on the assumption that Mr Alcock would react to the telephone call in the manner Mr Thomas regarded as correct (transcript p.46). Mr Thomas, however, arranged for the call to be made to Mr Alcock because he (Mr Thomas) was concerned that Mr Alcock was not following what Mr Thomas regarded as correct procedures. In cross-examination, Mr Thomas said (transcript p.33):

This evidence, in our view, shows that Mr Thomas knew that there was, at least, a possibility that Mr Alcock might not respond to the phone call in the manner which Mr Thomas regarded as correct. In these circumstances, we are of the view that Mr Thomas's actions were irresponsible and reckless and amounted to serious misconduct.

[50] We have earlier (see, for instance, our paragraph [43]) expressed views that amount to a rejection of five of the six considerations in Mr Thomas's favour that led his Honour to conclude that the termination of Mr Thomas was disproportionate to the offence. The remaining consideration was Mr Thomas's "generally good record". Whilst we have found that this consideration supported his Honour's view that Mr Thomas's termination was disproportionate to the offence, it is not, we think, of itself of such weight as would support the view that termination was disproportionate to the offence.

[51] We are accordingly of the opinion that there was a valid reason for Mr Thomas's termination related to his conduct (s170CG(3)(a)).

[52] As to ss.170CG(3)(b) and (c), in our view Duncan DP's findings (which are set out in our paragraphs [7] and [8] and which favour Chubb) were justified on the evidence. We, with respect, adopt them. Section 170CG(3)(d) is inapplicable. As to s.170CG(3)(e), there are no other matters we consider relevant.

[53] Finally, we bear in mind that s.170CA(2) says that:

[54] Having had regard, to the extent relevant or applicable, to the matters specified in s.170CG(3), and bearing in mind the intention expressed in s.170CA(2), we have concluded that Mr Thomas's termination was not harsh, unjust or unreasonable. Accordingly, the order we make pursuant to s.45(7)(b) dealing with the subject matter of the decision or act of Duncan DP is that Mr Thomas's application for relief under s.170CE be dismissed.

[55] Our order, which also sets aside the stay order, is published with this decision (Print S2680).

BY THE COMMISSION:

VICE PRESIDENT

Appearances:

S Benson of counsel (by leave) for Chubb Security Australia Pty Ltd

John Thomas in person

Hearing details:

1999
Sydney
December 8

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